Monthly General Meeting December 6th, 2017

The President, Allan Thomas, opened the Meeting with a Toast to Absent Friends. Remembrance to Bill Lee & Peter Ray, Members who Crossed the Bar in 2017.

 Guests: David Barlow: Vice President National S.A. & Chairman Barrow Branch S.A.

 Apologies: John Breen, Jim Dandie, Steve Dyer, Garry Horsham, Bill Lawrie, Barry Morgan, Bob Pitman, Kath Poularis, Ken Read, Gavin Scrimgour, Peter Shield, Frank Wilson, Roy Stedman, Barry Grace, John Reeve, Paul Meakin, John Harrison, Dennis Williams.

 Attendees: Pat Hanlon, Charlotte Keating, Mick Hannah, John Manning, Peter Greenfield, Mick Hanlon, Alan Thomas, Pat Thomas, Geoff Arnold, Bob Wood, Richard Drain, Peter Treen, Alan Jameson, Tom Oates, John Keating, Ned Newcombe, Carl Campbell, Ian McKenzie, Eoin Douglas-Smith,

 Rum Raffle:  Bob Wood

 Today’s Dit:  Dave Barlow


Birthday Wishes




7th  Tom Oates

31st  Karl Campbell


19th  Peter Shield

31st  Peter Treen


23rd  Don Fraser (92)

Life Member





                                                  Treasurer’s Report


Acceptance Proposed by: Mick Hanlon
Seconded by:                   Peter Treen


                                                 Secretary’s Report

Bob Wood was voted in as the new Sec however I am continuing in the role until Bob & Rae have concluded their holidays which will be the March meeting’

 The luncheon at Mt Henry Tavern was great to have two choices of starter, and desert, and 4 choices of main was incredible and I have to say while I was not too impressed with our first sojourn to this venue this one was really good. It was good to welcome Bob Pitman and Ken Read and the widows to this function also welcome to Dave Barlow from Barrow Branch for yet another visit to our shores. Maybe time to cover charge frequent visitors

 All members please note that Subscriptions are due before March when the U.K expect us to forward the subs. Subs can be given to me at meetings. M.W Hannah 2/1 Midvale Place Midvale W.A. 6056 Cheques made payable to Submariners Association Australia Branch. The reason for paying to me is so that only one person is responsible for correlating membership as opposed to 3 in the past i.e. President, Secretary and Treasurer. Receipts will be given.

 I am sure all members and family will be thinking of those lost on A.R.A San Juan As and when the U.K let me know if they are doing something as an Assc and we can include ourselves



                  To all members and past members of the RN Submariners Association


Best wishes from The HANNAH FAMILY and see you in January if not before.




Jim, G’Day; hopefully you will be aware of our Periscope Memorial here in Fremantle, WA.

It was dedicated on Sunday 21 Oct 1972, in a ceremony attended by the then Governor of WA, Maj Gen Sir Douglas Kendrew KCMG CB CBE DSO; at that time our West Australian Branch of SOCA was led by Leut (E) Gil Kerr RNR (Rtd), an Australian by birth, but he served in HMS HAWKINS, from the outbreak of WW2, until 1940 when he joined RN SM’s; he later served in L25, TUNA & TRIBUNE.

The Periscope was originally installed in TABARD & was gifted to us from the then FOSM V/Adm Sir John Roxborough KCB CBE DSO DSC* RN. Gil Kerr was the driving force in obtaining & erecting this periscope & we have a complete copy of its history; I would be very surprised to learn that you do not have a copy of this history; if not let me know & we will produce some more copies & send you one?

Enclosed is a Photo taken when the then First Sea Lord Adm Sir Mark Stanhope, visited the memorial several years ago now; I’m on his right; several other photos are also attached. We have an Annual Periscope Memorial service, on the Sunday closest to Trafalgar Day. Over in Sydney, they have a Memorial dedicated to KI3, but I’m sure that one of the former Eastern States members will give you all its details (if not then let me know, as I also have a copy).

 Regards, John Keating


Welfare Officer - Australia Branch


Correspondence In:


From: Jim McMaster.

Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:02 PM

To: John Keating

Subject: Re: RN WW2 SM Periscope Memorial at Fremantle's Monument Hill

 John good to hear from you. Many thanks for this information and photographs – just what we are looking for.

I’m ashamed to say that I am unaware of the history of this rather unique Monument and would be grateful for the story. Regards to all ‘Down Under’, Jim McMaster.


From David Woolterton National Membership Sec.

Irrespective of previous concerns Mr. Derek Lilliman due to previous membership at both S.A. Australia Branch and Eastern States branch and his age (91) is a life member of the Submariners Assciation..


                                                    Presidents Report

On November 15th we were informed of the sad loss of Argentinian Submarine: ARA San Juan. On behalf of our Association & as fellow Submariners, I have sent a message to the Naval Attaché at the Argentinian Embassy, conveying our deepest Condolences to the Families, Friends & the Argentinian Navy for their tragic loss. ARA San Juan was built in Germany, laid down in 1983 & commissioned into the Argentinian Navy in 1985. The last Reports that came from the Submarine stated they had taken in water through the Snorkel, which had flooded into the Battery space. (as per: Argentinian Navy Press Release.) The compliment on board at the time she went missing, was 44. This included the only Female Officer in the Argentinian Submarine Service. Yet they have not located the Submarine after an extensive search carried out by an International array of Surface Ships & Unmanned Submersibles.

I have been in touch with Channel Seven’s: Today Tonight Program hoping they can help us with Fremantle City Council’s lack of commitment regarding repairs to the Periscope Memorial Site. Channel Seven requested Photographs of the Site, & which I have forwarded, those taken at the October’17 Ceremony. They also wanted to know if we would go on Camera, to which I agreed to. We are now awaiting further response from Channel Seven.

On Friday December 8th, Pat & I along with Buster Keating, attended T.S. Anzac’s Annual Presentation Awards in Rockingham. The Awards include the Ivor Charlick Memorial Trophy, which goes to the Most Outstanding Cadet. This year’s  recipient  was  Seaman  Marni  Robertson.  A   Female   Cadet   who   thoroughly   deserved   Ivor’s   Award. For all our new Members who have joined recently, Ivor Charlick was a World War Two E.R.A., well respected & truly loved Life Member of our Association. Due to our close relationship with T.S. Anzac, Ivor’s Family set up an ongoing Annual Legacy, for the top Cadet to be presented with the Ivor Charlick Trophy. This is a mounted replica of a World War Two ‘T’ Class Submarine, & also included in the Prize is an engraved Association Crest & a Cheque for $100.00.


Many thanks to Dave Barlow, Chairman of Barrow Submariner’s Association for donating a Bottle of Navy Rum (which was gratefully consumed at the December MGM) also a Submarine Veteran’s Cap which was Auctioned off at the Xmas Luncheon, with Bob Wood being the successful Bidder.



                                                 General Business

10 Minute Dit: Dave Barlow

Rum Raffle Winner: Bob Wood



                                 Social Secretary’s Report & Coming Events



Sunday 19th Nov. End of Year Picnic at Kings Park.

Great turnout with 18 attending. Rum Raffle won by Barry Grace. Quiz won by Bob Wood. Rum Raffle: raising $ 95.00. Gift Raffle: raising $ 85.00. Monies banked. Attending: Pat & Mick Hanlon, Bob & Rae Wood, Charlotte & Buster Keating, Karl & Morag Campbell, Barry & Katy Grace, Geoff & Jenny Arnold, G Horsham & Jen, Pat & Allan Thomas, Wilma Hannah & Rochelle Bishop.


Xmas Function on Saturday 9th  December at Mt Henry Tavern.

A most enjoyable occasion. Attended by 37 people, including Bob Pitman from Albany, four Widows: Vera Fulton, Jean Bruce, Sandra Vine & Rochelle Bishop. Guests: President of SAA.WA: Terry Baker & wife Louise, Defense Co- Ordinator: Andrew Bujdegan & wife Maree, & from UK: Chairman of Barrow Submariner’s Assn: Dave Barlow & wife Fiona. Rum Raffle won by: Geoff Arnold, raised $ 205.00 for the Association. Gift Raffle, in which nearly everyone received a present, thanks to those who donated a gift, raised $230.00. Auction for RN Submariner’s Cap which was donated by Dave Barlow & was won by Bob Wood, raised $31.00. A huge “Thank-you” to everyone who has contributed towards our Raffles, making them such a success. We appreciate your Generous Support.


Golf Day TBA


                                                   Welfare Report

 Ken & Sonja Read: No change.

 Roy Stedman: Roy remains in good spirits and is visited by Ken Read regularly who keeps us up to date with Roy’s progress. Roy’s mobile phone number is 0421 991 990 should any member wish to speak with him.

 Dennis Williams: Dennis is now back at home after 7 weeks in hospital. He is recovering well and slowly improving.

Bob Pitman: It was good to see Bob at the Christmas Luncheon on the 9th December. He had set off with his son at 6.00am From Albany to Attend. He was in good spirits, laughing & joking.

 Kath Poularis: No change. 


                                                   Crossed The Bar

                                Crossed The Bar (Navy News)


Des Price, PO Stoker (he was mentioned in our Oct 17 CTB’s, but this gave no SM History); served 1944-46, in OTWAY, TRIBUNE & TOTEM. NZ Branch, 4 Oct, aged 97.


David JM Howe MAA; served 1983-2006, initially in SM’s as a Sonar Operator, before transferring to the Regulating Branch in 1990; units included NPM Rosyth; HMS MERCURY & INVINCIBLE; NP Diego Garcia; NPM Portsmouth; NPM Clyde; HMS DRAKE; NP Sarajevo; NPM Plymouth & HMS ILLUSTRIOUS, also FTRS 2010-11, in the RNLA HMS COLLINGWOOD; 10 Sept, aged 51.



The President & Social Secretary would like to wish all Members, Widows & Families a very Merry Christmas and Prosperous, Safe New Year for 2018.

                                          Meeting ended at approx: 12:56.




           The next Monthly General Meeting will be at The Flying Angel, Fremantle on




 Wednesday 10th  January 2018 commencing at 1200









4th December. 4th. 2017.


Ron Mellor. AB. (GSM) 92. NORTH STAFFS.
S/m Service: 1948-1951.
Boats: Sentinel, Selene, Tireless, Thorough, Alderney & Amphion.



November. 24th. 2017.

David (Dave) Burr. P.O. Std. 68. PLYMOUTH

S/m Service;1970-1981
Boats:Resolution, Cachalot, Sovereign, Narwhal,
Opportune, Splendid & Valiant.



November. 11th. 2017.

Pete Grace. ERA. Renown Association
Renown (Stbd) late 70s / early 80s.


 NOVEMBER. 8th. 2017.

John Hedley (TUG) Wilson. CCEMN. 74. in Cape Town.SA.
S/m Service: ****-1979.
Boats: Valiant & RENOWN


November. 2017.

Wallace.C.J.(Jim) L/Sto. 85 MERSEYSIDE
S/m Service;1953-1958
Boats: Tireless, Token, Teredo, Sanguine, Sturdy & Seneschal.


Bronte-Hearn.P. (Paddy) PO.Tel. 93. (L) GATWICK.
S/m Service: 1945-1954
Boats: Seraph Trespasser, Selene, Stygian, Token,
Sportsman, Scotsman, Sirdar & Scythian.



Wilson D. (Dave) PO.WEA. 78. BARROW IN FURNESS

S/m Service: 1957-1981
Boats:Taciturn Tiptoe Porpoise Resolution Revenge.



November. 4th. 2017.

David Pritchard. AB. 81. LINCOLN
S/m Service: 1956-1958.
Boats: Aeneas , Seascout & Amphion.



November. 1st. 2017.

WO (WEA 1) Hugh (Shuggie) Ross


October.8th. 2017.

WHITE, Edward (Ted) OBE. Cdr. 79.
Cumbria area



October. 7th. 2017.


Stuart Dickson. POCK (SM).





October. 2017.

Hollands.C. (Charles) LEM. 87 MEDWAY TOWNS                                            S/m Service: 1948-1960                                                                                         Boats: Anchorite, Sirdar, Sturdy & Trespasser


 October.4th. 2017.

D.W.(Des) Price. PO.Sto. 97. NEW ZEALAND

S/m Service:1944-1946
Boats:Otway, Tribune & Totem.


September. 30th. 2017.

Hunter.J.R. (John) AB. UC3.71. NORTHERN IRELAND                                                        S/m Service: 1966-1968                                                                                                 Boats: Totem, Sealion & Oberon


September. 19th. 2017

Smith.A.(Alex). CMEM.(L). 74. BLYTH & WANSBECK .                                                        S/m Service:1970-1979.                                                                                                 Boats: Revenge & Repulse.



September. 19th. 2017.

Hilton.H. (Harry). LMEM. 91. ESSEX.                                                                                  S/m Service: 1942-1946.                                                                                               Boats: Autra, Tapir & Truncheon.


September. 2017.

Watts-Tucker.K. (Kevin) WO.(TS). 68. GOSPORT

S/m Service:1969-1999 

Boats:Sealion, Rorqual, Conqueror, Valiant,
Warspite, Splendid & Churchill


September.6th. 2017.

Charles C Jones. A/ Tel.- L/Sto. 93. DOLPHIN BRANCH.
S/m Service: 1943 - 1949.
Boats: H.33, Spiteful & Supreme.



September. 2nd. 2017.

Lee. W.H. (Bill) AB. ST. 92 Australia Branch.
S/m Service: 1943-1947.
Boats: Trenchant, Trump, & Satyr.


September. 2nd. 2017.

Jon Graham (Ben) Wheeler. in Cumbria.
Served on Revenge & Sovereign



Dated,,, 1st Sept

The Royal Berkshire Submariners were honoured to attend the funeral, this morning, of Jack Edwin Froude at Caversham Crematorium.

Froude.J. (Jack) Stk 1. 96 . ROYAL BERKS
S/m Service:1943-1947
Boats: Sealion, Tantivy, P614 & Trusty.


August. 29th. 2017.

WGF (Bill) Organ. OBE. Cdr. 74.
S/m Service: 1966. --
Boats: Artful, Cachalot , Perisher 1974, Porpoise , Oberon, Valiant .



August. 26th. 2017.


Mark Lane (Submariner) from Harrogate.



August.24th. 2017.


Gerald Victor Marriott. L/SA. 64.
S/m Service: 1972-1985.
Boats: Otter, Olympus, Narwhal, Osiris, & Orpheu




 August. 24th. 2017.

Vowden.W.P.G. (Bill) AB.ST. 91 MEDWAY TOWNS
S/m Service: 1944-1947
Boats:Sportsman Vagabond Tudor.



 August. 20th. 2017.


Michael Davenport (Dudley) C.MEM. 74. BARROW-IN-FURNESS.    

S/m Service: 1961-1982
Boats: Seascout Talent Dreadnought Resolution Revenge Sceptre.


August. 18th. 2017.

John Hamblett. PO.MEM.(L)

Boats: - - - -? Sceptre.



August. 16th. 2017,


Lewis. R.E. (Ralph) CPO.Coxn. 88. DOLPHIN
S/m Service:1959-1969
Boats: Seadevil, Thermopylae, Trenchant, Alderney,
Tiptoe & Resolution



 August. 4th. 2017.

Billy (Chris) Belcher (CMEA)
HMS Tireless build crew



August. 1st. 2017.

Bishop. K.H. (Keith) PO.REL 72. S.A. Exec'. Dolphin.
Membership Secretary.
S/m Service: 1966-1976.
Boats: Finwhale, Oberon, Acheron & Andrew.



August. 1st. 2017.

Keith Radford (Radders) PO. Rel.
Boats: Otus, Conquoror, Opossum.



July.30th. 2017.

Peter 'Ginge' Fairclough, CPO WEM (O). 59.
S/m Service: NK
Boats: NK, S/m10 Polaris.



July. 20th. 2017.

Ken Holtham,  L/Tel. 92.  DERBY.
S/m Service: 1941-1953.
Boats: Acheron, Sahib, Spiteful, Stoic, Sturdy,
           Tabard, Talent & Trenchant.


July. 19th. 2017.

William C Stampton. L/Tel. 97. DOLPHIN.
S/m Service: 1940 until 1946.
Boats: Tuna, Seadog and two Dutch S/M's 015 & Zwardfish


July. 10th. 2017.

Peter Trevalion.   Lt Cdr RNR.   88.    Dolphin branch.
S/m Service: 1952 to 1962
Boats: Astute, Anchorite, Aeneas and Alaric.


July. 1st. 2017.

James Thomsett. AB. LTO. 96. East Kent Branch.
S/m Service: 1941 to 1950.
Boats: H50, P36, K1X, Thule, Sea Nymph, Sturdy & Sea Devil.



June. 28th. 2017.

M.L.C. "Tubby" Crawford RN, DSC and Bar. Capt.
He was First Lt of the first HMS UPHOLDER and Commanded HMS UNSEEN,
operating in the Mediterranean during WW2.

His grandson reports that he had spent 27th with his family and old comrades celebrating his hundredth birthday. He died peacefully in the evening of 28th surrounded by his family having said his farewells.



June. 24th. 2017.


Captain Peter Cobb OBE Royal Navy




June. 19th. 2017.

P.G. (Charlie) Moon. LME. 74. INDALO SPAIN
S/m Service: 1964-1970.
Boats: Token, Auriga, Rorqual & Onslaught.


 June. 16th. 2017.


Trevor W Dodwell. C.R.S 72, Lincoln Branch
S/m Service: 1963 - 1982
Boats: Talent, Andrew, Cachalot, Alliance, Revenge & Resolution.



 June. 10th. 2017

Stanley Crosby. POMEM(M). ex Warspite.


June. 6th. 2017.

Mark James Shores, 31. MEM SM. (Serving. SM 2.)



5th.June 2017

Dave Geeson. WO nuclear greenie,
Dreadnought. Revenge (S) and others.




June. 4th. 2017.

Brian (Twiggy) Birch. P. O. CEL. ( In Australia )
S/m Service: 1959-1969.
Boats: Acheron , Tabard, Taciturn, then RAN.



 June. 2nd. 2017.


Percie Cooke. PO Stoker. 101. Dolphin Branch. Beds & Herts.
S/m Service: 1939 - 1945.
Boats: Narwhal, Tempest, L.28, H49, Cachalot, Thunderbolt,
Turbulent, Clyde, Sturdy and Surf.




May. 30th. 2017.


Norman (Brigham) Young. BEM. CPO.Coxn. GOSPORT S/m Service: 1947-1968 

Boats: Telemachus, Selene, Seadevil, Grampus, Thermopylae, Acheron,Walrus, Seneschal & Scorcher.




May.      2017.


Crossman J. (John) L/Sea. 89. GOSPORT

S/m Service: 1947-1953
Boats: Astute, Aurochs, Tabard & Sanguine.




May. 19th.2017.


S/m Service: 1945-1955
Boats: Tally-Ho, Anchorite, Thorough, & Solent(CO).




May. 19th. 2017.

J. Peter Fox.(Foxy) 47. in Huddersfield.

Known boats: Conqueror, Sovereign, Ursula & Sceptre.



 May. 13th. 2917.


Norman Dodd.  L/Sea.  75.  Merseyside.
S/m Service: 1962 - 1969.
Boats: Narwhal, Warspite and Alliance.


May.12th. 2017.

Christopher Anton Hemmings. 28. (in Devon ) fatal car accident,
Submariner on HMS Triumph, he was an AB Sonar.
Had recently became an Officer and was still serving at HMS Collingwood.



May. 8th. 2017.


Nigel 'Annie' Annable. LSA. 56,  in Nelson. New Zealand.
S/m Service: 1970s-1980s
Known boats: Courageous & Valiant.




Hurndall. D.J. (Derek). TO2.  80.   MANCHESTER 
S/m Service: 1957-1961 
Boats: Taciturn & Ambush.


May.     2017.

Rae.J.B. (Jim)  L/Tel.  82   SCOTTISH.
S/m Service:
Boats: Tally-Ho, Trump, Sturdy, Trenchant & Tudor.


May. 7th. 2017.

Henderson W.H. (Bill) CC.MEA.(P). 76  NOTTINGHAM  

 S/m Service: 1962-1986   
Boats: Oberon, Andrew & Onslaught.


 May. 7th. 2017.


Terry Mortlock.  POLTO, 

 Auriga ,Alliance & Opportune.



May. 2nd. 2017.


Tim, (Rattler), Morgan.
of Sealion fame crossed the bar aged 56.


 May. 2nd. 2017.


Paul Keefe




May. 1st. 2017.


Charles Fredrick Rear.  St Mech.  86.
He served on Tireless in 1953


April. 29th. 2017.

Wade. D.E. (Don). L.M.E. 83. BARROW-IN-FURNESS 
S/m Service: 19/55-1958 
Boats: Sea Scout-Solent Artemis Auriga.



 April. 24th. 2017.


David Cullum. 
Served on Porpoise   wrecker on Trafalger



 April. 19th. 2017.


Richard. A. 'Jumbo' Pearse. OAM.  WOUWSM. 84.
Woodford QLD,
Eastern States Submariner.
S/m Service: 1952-1962.RN--1969-1988.RAN.
Boats: Aurochs, Telemachus, Thermopylae,                                   Thorough,
Tireless & Tapir.
Oxley, Otway,   Ovens, & Onslow.



April.      2017.


John Godkin.  CCMEA(P)
S/m Service:
Boats: Anchorite, Tiptoe, Churchill , Valiant & Courageous,



6th April 2017

Keith Simpson.  CPO(COXN). 87.  Peterborough Branch
S/m Service: 1947-1958.
Boats: Turpin, Selene, Sturdy ,Talent , Ambush, Seraph, Thermoplyae



Tuesday 4th April


Roy ' Fritzy' Mulliner
Sealion, onslaught,Otus, sm1 and others


Reported: 3rd. April. 2017.

P. (Pete). Ray. SAP.(RAN)   68.
S/M. Service: 1969. Ocelot.


  March. 27th. 2017.

 Colin (jake) Wade. .... UC1.
 Resolution. 77-80. & Renown



March.24th. 2017.


David.(Nobby) Hall.  L/ CK. (L) Gosport Branch.
S/m Service: 1970-1990.
Boats: Churchill, Swiftsure, Ocelot, Sealion, Otter, Opossum & Odin.


March 22nd 2017

Tim Austin .  Lt Cdr. 

Resolution, Trenchant, Trump, Opportune, Tabard and Slythian.
CO. Artemis.
retired in 1987 to a  florist shop in Virginia Beach, USA.


21st March 2017

PO Michael Skehill     Blackpool  area
 HMS Alliance, Odin, Orpheus and Olympus as well as others



March 20th.

Mac, McCurry   CRS(SM)
In Devon.
Spartan Assoc'


 March.      2017.

Adam Bergius DSC  S/Lt. RNVR.

Adam served with our late member Lt Cdr Max Shean DSO* RANVR in HMS XE4 during a mission to cut the Singapore-Saigon, and the Hong Kong-Saigon submerged communications cables.


March.12th. 2017


John Finch.  CPO Coxn.  91.  Vectis Branch.
S/m Service: 1948 -1971.
Boats: Sentinel, Thule, Auriga, Sidon, Anchorite,
Thermopylae , Totem, Sanguine, Trenchant,
Trespasser, Tiptoe and Andrew.



March.11th. 2017


Short.H. Hughie.  M(E)1. 76.  Barrow                                             S/m Service: 1962-1967 
Boats:Token & Osiris.




March. 11th. 2017.


Brown. Andy.   79. Mech1,  
in Oulton Broad near Lowestoft.
Served on Auriga 1968-1971.


 8th March. 2017.


Henry John Peach.  LTO. 96.   Isle of Wight.

 Served on  Saracen, Seraph & Taurus,  
1939 - 1945



March 8th. 2017.


 Danny Joyce    OA
Oracle with his brother Bobby, then went to V boats
 Was on Artful before he left.




 March.3rd. 2017.

John 'Bungy' Williams. CPO.MEM(M).
HMS Revenge & HMS Resolution Assoc's.