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                                 Kitchener’s Holiday Centre

Shipmates may wish to know that that the Kitchener’s Holiday Centre in Lowestoft is available for all ex-Servicemen and Women and their wives/husband/partners.  It is situated in a Grade Two listed building overlooking the seafront at Kirkley Cliff. The centre was founded as a memorial to Field Marshall Lord Kitchener of Khartoum and was opened in 1919.  The centre is open from April to October and has centrally heated en-suite twin bedrooms with two rooms having walk-in showers.


Price List 2016


Guest Type   Full Week Half Board -- 3 or 4 Night Short Break half Board-- Per Night B&B (Min 2
Ex Service                £165                                £120                                                   £18
Partner/ Spouse        £205                                £145                                                   £24


Widow/Widower     £205                                 £145                                                   £24


 Single Supplement   £20 per week                  £20 per stay                                    £10 per night


For further details please contact: The Manager, Lord Kitchener Memorial Holiday Centre, 10 Kirkley Cliff, Lowestoft NR33 0BY. Tel: 01502 573564  e-mail info@kitcheners.co.uk










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Australia is looking for replacement vessels of about 4000 tonnes, armed with land attack cruise missiles and capable of performing long-range intelligence and surveillance, to replace it’s aging fleet. 

Navy fleet

John Kerin. Financial Review. 
PUBLISHED: 19 Jun 2014
Within the space of a few weeks the Abbott government has presided over a shake-up of the options for a fleet of submarines to replace the ageing ­Collins class.

While an evolved Collins class was a short-price favourite at the end of the Labor era, an almighty spat between the Swedish government and German industrial giant Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems means a German design could now fall over the line.

The nuclear option remains off the table despite the US indicating it would be amenable to an Australian approach on the Virginia class submarines.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s enthusiasm for the Japanese Soryu class submarine – one of the most advanced diesel electric submarines on the planet – has also thrown a fresh option in to the mix. Australia is looking for a vessel of about 4000 tonnes, armed with land attack cruise missiles and capable of performing long-range intelligence and surveillance.

Officially, Defence Minister David Johnston says all four approaches to the purchase of new submarines are still on the table and to be considered as part of the release of a new defence white paper by April next year.

The former Labor government pared back the options to either an updated Collins or a new design but the Coalition re-embraced two others – an existing off-the-shelf design only slightly modified to Australia con­ditions or an existing design more ­drastically modified.

Senator Johnston also threw grave doubt on both the need for 12 sub­marines and the price tag of up to $36 billion at a submarine conference in Canberra in April, when he said the number 12 had never been justified.

“There has been a lot of speculation on whether we need 12 boats,’’ Senator Johnston said. “Let me make it clear that my primary focus is not on ­numbers but on the capability and availability of boats required to meet the tasks set by the government.”

Japanese option on the table

Senator Johnston has also described the Japanese submarine as the most capable conventional submarine in service and closest of all contenders, including European boats, to meeting Australia’s needs.

It has been reported that Japan might be willing to sell ­Australia the 3500-tonne Soryu. Certainly Australia and Japan are expected to sign a defence technology and sharing deal as part of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s determination to normalise Tokyo’s defence posture.

But defence sources play down the prospect of Japan selling Australia an entire submarine and suggest it is more likely some of the systems aboard the Soryu could be incorporated into whatever design the Abbott government opts for.

Were Japan to sell Australia a fleet of Soryu submarines, it would be the biggest arms sale since Tokyo relaxed restrictions two years ago and would also presumably sacrifice jobs at Adelaide-based ASC.

But such a sale would require the alteration of Japan’s constitutional restrictions on self-defence imposed after World War II and it would ratchet up tensions in the region, incurring the wrath of China.

The dispute between the Swedish and German governments, which threatens the “evolved Collins” approach spilled onto the floor of a submarine conference in Canberra in early April after retired Swedish Navy Rear-Admiral Göran Larsbrink of the Swedish government purchasing agency said it had been a mistake to sell Swedish submarine builder Kockums to Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems and the Swedes should reacquire it.

Sweden has become increasingly angry, accusing Thyssen Krupp of sidelining Kockums, which the Germans acquired some years ago, in favour of its own subsidiary and German sub­marine builder HDW.

The Swedish government owns the Kockums intellectual property for the Collins class submarines and a defence source suggests that unless the row is resolved it effectively rules out the evolved Collins option.

Swedes turns to Saab
Sweden has now turned to defence giant Saab to build the next generation of submarines for its Navy. Saab has poached some of the workforce from Kockums and is making an aggressive pitch for the Australian project.

But defence sources suggest Saab’s disadvantage is that it has not built a submarine. Kockums was excluded from an initial global design search by the former Labor government.

None of the existing submarines offered by European submarine builders were considered large enough or as having the endurance for the long-range patrols required by Australia, which is why the European off-the-shelf option was ruled out by former defence minister Stephen Smith.

Both political parties are committed to assembling submarines at ASC in Adelaide despite ongoing delays and budget overruns on the $8.5 billion air warfare destroyer project.

TKMS-owned HDW is the world’s most successful exporter of diesel electric submarines and it has proposed a 4000-tonne Type 216 submarine – a stretched version of its successful Type 214 for the Australian project.

TKMS chief executive Hans Christoph Atzpodien told the same conference the Germans could build 12 submarines for Australia for $20 billion rather than the often-mooted price tag of $36 billion, even while using the Adelaide based workforce.

However, one should be wary of accepting price promises from defence contractors, given the propensity for delays and cost blowouts on technically complex projects.

The race is clearly on in earnest






By By Tim Kelly and Matt Siegel
May 28, 2014 5:12 PM


TOKYO/SYDNEY (Reuters) - Japan will get the chance to pursue an unprecedented military export deal when its defense and foreign ministers meet their Australian counterparts in Tokyo next month.

Japan is considering selling submarine technology to Australia perhaps even a fleet of fully engineered, stealthy vessels, according to Japanese officials. Sources on both sides say the discussions so far have encouraged a willingness to speed up talks.


See more @  http://news.yahoo.com/japan-australia-consider-submarine-deal-could-rattle-china-211236828--sector.html




Former First Sea Lord Admiral Lord West said Britain is “now paying the price” for the 10-year delay in ordering the Astute-class replacements.

“Even when they come on line fully, we will not have the eight submarines which, I believe, is the minimum number we should have in our locker to undertake the tasks required.”

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said there were contingency plans to increase the military footprint in the South Atlantic if required but there was no suggestion of any need to do this at present.

Admiral. Sandy Woodward.
 "I have always argued that we need to have a submarine on permanent deployment in the South Atlantic but this was reduced to occasional deployment. Now we seem not able to do that, either."


The Submariners Association have started a project to erect a Blue
Plaque to commemorate holders of the VC who were submariners.
The driving force behind the project is Rick Rothwell JP who is on
the National Management Committee of the
Submariners Association and is a member of the Merseyside Branch.

On Saturday 6th of July the first such plaque was unveiled by the
Association President, Admiral Sir James Perowne KBE, at
St Joseph's Convent in Newport Gwent. The building is the
birthplace of Commander John Wallace (Tubby) Linton VC, DSO, DSC,RN.
 The house was acquired by the Sisters of St. Joseph in 1948 for use as a hospital and hospice.
Commander Linton was born in the house on the 15th of October 1905.

In recognition of his achievement, and the gallantry of Turbulent's crew,
John Wallace Linton, DSO, DSC,RN. was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross
 25 May 1943.
The citation read:

"Commander Linton has been in command ofsubmarines throughout the War.
He has been esponsible for the destruction of
1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 20 merchant vessels, 6 schooners& 2 trains.
A total of 81,000 tons of enemy shipping sunk.
From 1st January 1942 to 1st January 1943 he spent 254 days at sea,
including 2,970 hours dived.
During this period he was hunted 13 times and had 250
depth charges dropped on him.
His career has been one of conspicuous gallantry and extreme
devotion to duty in the presence of the enemy.

Representing the National Management Committee of
the Submariners Association were the Chairman Jim
McMaster, Committee Members Rick Rothwell JP and
Frank Pas together with the National Membership
Secretary Keith Bishop.


The Japanese Defense Ministry is said to be considering an Australian proposal for sharing sensitive submarine technology, according to the Japanese publication, Asahi Shimbun. The technology in question involves an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system currently deployed in Japanese Soryu-class submarines and developed for the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) by a defence contractor, according to the publication. The Australian Department of Defence is seeking to procure up to 12 submarines of as yet undetermined design, and officials say they are pursuing a variety of potential propulsion systems, including AIP.